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JessicaB --- 10 years ago -

Just wanted to share that I am not liking TMO right now...if you came over here on restricted weight they are making you go back to the USA on a restricted weight no matter how long you have been here (hubs found out at TMO briefing) so does anyone know how to get that amended? 

ChiTownGrl --- 10 years ago -

Is your husband Air Force or MC? 

JessicaB --- 10 years ago -

We are AF 

ChiTownGrl --- 10 years ago -

Oh I am no help then. Sorry! 

Tootie --- 10 years ago -

We were told that when we came over here. Also if you have storage left with the military (USMC) it's included into your weight when you return. I noticed TMO rules are different for most of the services. 

JessicaB --- 10 years ago -

LOL no worries it just blows...we came over here allowed 2000 lbs or 25% of the JFRT? and my hubbys will be a SSgt on Friday and full weight for a staff is 8000 or 25% of your JFRT which is only 2000 lbs! We were newly married and had nothing and now we have everything as far as furniture including a three year old...does anyone know how much it costs if you got over your weight limit? 

JessicaB --- 10 years ago -

We don't have anything in storage in the states...so we are good there and yes some people can go back with no limits the AF passed a thing after we got here where you had no limit on weight returning to the states but apparently that is only if you were not restricted coming over here but I don't see how they would let someone come over here with no weight limit... 

Tootie --- 10 years ago -

Rank may have something to do with that. 

JessicaB --- 10 years ago -

I don't know I'm just stressed to the max...we should have been out of here over a month and a half ago... 

Tootie --- 10 years ago -

Good luck! Don't stress to much at least your leaving :) 

JessicaB --- 10 years ago -

Well we have pugs to try to get home and they have heat restrictions both here and in the states with flying so...I just want to know how much you are charged if you go over you weight limit...I'm sure it's by the pound... 

Nicole --- 10 years ago -

As far as I know, there is no set rate. :( I asked when coming here. They wouldn't even ball park it for me. So, it could be 10 cents a pound, it could be 10 dollars a pound. There is no way to know until you get the bill.

Also, I thought the JFTR stated 25% or min 2500 lbs-and your express shipment (which should be 1000lbs) does not count towards that.

TMO is all sorts of screwy. When we came, we were told we'd be able to take our full rank-based allowance back, minus our storage weight. I'm definitely stressed after hearing about TMO cracking down. Scrutinize your original orders and the weight allowances. We got allowances on our orders that TMO here said don't exist, but if they plan to make us adhere to our original orders, I'm going to fight to get that included-it is on our orders after all.

You can apply for a waiver, but I'm not sure how to do that. 

JessicaB --- 10 years ago -

We are going to fight it all we can...I don't want to have to start all over again...This has been the worst place to PCS from...it's like no one has an answer, no one knows what is going on, I'm just trying to tell myself to breath and take it one day at a time but that is not easy to do.. 

JessicaB --- 10 years ago -

As far as I know, there is no set rate. :( I asked when coming here. They wouldn't even ball park it for me. So, it could be 10 cents a pound, it could be 10 dollars a pound. There is no way to know until you get the bill.

That is what I was thinking...our orders coming over here, we came over here allowed 2000 lbs or 25% of the JFTR...we didn't have near the 2000 lbs as we didn't have any real HHG's except clothes...since being here 4 years we now have everything minus a kitchen table and coffee table/end tables and we have a kid too...and my hubby sews on SSGT on Friday had the full weight limit on that is 8000 or 25% of you JFTR which equals 2000 lbs...sigh...We have been told you can amend it so I'm hoping and praying it is true and that it is not hard... 

JessicaB --- 10 years ago -

Good luck with the waiver! I've heard the AF is kind of stingy with them.

ERRRR I'm not surprised to hear this!

Since you have a kid, you will get a couple hundred extra pounds in your express shipment at least.

Well that is good news...what all goes in express, whatever you want? 

Nicole --- 10 years ago -

ell that is good news...what all goes in express, whatever you want?

No, just your smaller stuff. You cannot do any furniture, except for stuff that can be taken apart (like a baby crib). You can take a small TV, can't remember the max size. Otherwise, load it with clothes, linens, that sort of stuff. Try to max out at 1000lbs. 

JessicaB --- 10 years ago -

Thank you ladies so much...like I said I'm so stressed...and don't want to forget something or miss something... 

Angel --- 10 years ago -

A.1.1. Air Force policy is that members assigned to restricted areas generally remain weight
restricted on departure from the area unless exceptions are made by MAJCOM supplements. This
applies if the weight restriction is lifted while the member is still assigned to that area. The
establishment of an effective date for the policy change is designed to apply prospectively, not
retroactively. Therefore, across-the-board approval of full JFTR weight shipments cannot be
authorized for these personnel. However, requests for additional weight can be considered on a
case-by-case basis under the provisions of Attachment 2, Table A2.1.


May as well try and fight it 

JennaDoll --- 10 years ago -

I think it was March 2008 when they dropped the weight restrictions. I could be wrong. We came over here with nothing, bought a lot of furniture, and were told we'd be able to take it back. We were also not allowed to have govn't furniture more than 90 days or something like that. I hope it all works for you Jessica, I know it can be stressful! 

JessicaB --- 10 years ago -

AHHHHHH this just blows! We got here in 2007 so the weight thing was still in effect!!! I guess we will be getting rid of something if we can't win our fight with them...this just sucks!!! 

Casey --- 10 years ago -

They told us when we moved here that moving back we would not have a weight restriction unless we pcsed to somewhere weight restricted.

they told us the same, AND didn't let us schedule an unaccompanied baggage shipment, so every scrap of furniture we have was bought here over time. i am NOT giving up more than i need to. there will be no third time re-buying a whole house worth. i will be figuring out this whole waiver situation soon... 

JessicaB --- 10 years ago -

i will be figuring out this whole waiver situation soon

Once we do I'll post on here for everyone what you need to do...we are going to fight it with all we got! 

Casey --- 10 years ago -

We got here in 2007 so the weight thing was still in effect!!! I guess we will be getting rid of something if we can't win our fight with them...this just sucks!!!
we got here december 2007, they lifted the restriction a month after we got here about. TMO told us we would definitely be unrestricted coming back.. we were some of the last people able to get furniture and keep it for more than 90 days.

if i don't get to take my full weight, we'll probably just pay the overage. i'm not going to sell all the stuff we've saved for because they don't know how their own stupid rules work. 

JessicaB --- 10 years ago -

if i don't get to take my full weight, we'll probably just pay the overage. i'm not going to sell all the stuff we've saved for because they don't know how their own stupid rules work.

We were talking about that last night I just don't want it to cost us an arm and a leg more than just rebuying it in the states... 

Casey --- 10 years ago -

yea, definitely let us know... maybe i'll get lucky because we PCS in the off season. 

JessicaB --- 10 years ago -

we should have been gone over a month and a half ago...I'm soooo stressed! I've been looking at flight for the middle of April just in case we still don't have orders then so I can fly the pugs home...I know to some that might be crazy but I can't leave them here it would not only kill us but my little girl would be so upset... 

Balls To The Wall --- 10 years ago -

we got here december 2007, they lifted the restriction a month after we got here about.

I am pretty sure it didn't go into affect until right before we came in May. We were briefed one thing and then it changed right before we left the states. 

JessicaB --- 10 years ago -

I just know it was sometime in 2008... 

Nicole --- 10 years ago -

We were talking about that last night I just don't want it to cost us an arm and a leg more than just rebuying it in the states... 

That was my worry. The overage charge could be nothing compared to having to rebut, or it could be much worse than rebuying. There is no way to know. 

Balls To The Wall --- 10 years ago -

March 1 2008 is when it went into affect. I think we did a lot of briefing in February and then we left early May. It sucked for us because we were told to leave most of our furniture because the size of the houses, which we did. Which I find funny because we have a lot of furniture in our house now. Then when we got here they told us we had 90 days with our government furniture. I told them that Tyndall had briefed us to leave our big furniture and we were told oh well. 

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